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some students vs students — event vs category (Murphy Unit 71, Countable nouns)

  • bare plural (students) = generic / category: all students, students in general

  • some + plural (some students) = event reading: an unspecified number in a specific incident

  • I met some students in a cafe yesterday. ✓ (event, unknown count)

  • Students learn fast. (generic truth)

Form Reading Example
some students event — specific incident, unknown number I met some students yesterday.
students (bare) category — general truth about the class Students learn fast.
the students specific known ones The students in my class passed.

“I met ___ students in a cafe yesterday” — the specific past time forces the event reading, which needs some:

  • I met students yesterday → odd — reads like you met the whole category
  • I met some students yesterday → natural — an unspecified few

Context clue: a specific event at a specific time (yesterday, last week, in the cafe) → some. A general statement with no time → bare plural.

Indonesian English
Saya bertemu mahasiswa kemarin (bare) needs some: I met some students yesterday
Saya bertemu beberapa mahasiswa kemarin I met some students yesterday ✓
Mahasiswa belajar cepat Students learn fast (generic ✓)

Indonesian behaves the same way — bare noun leans generic; “beberapa” (some) marks the event reading.

I met ___ students in a cafe yesterday. They were from China.

Answer: some — first mention of plural countable in a specific past event.

Why not the bare plural? — “met students yesterday” reads as the category; the event reading needs “some”.

Raymond Murphy, English Grammar in Use (4th ed.), Unit 71 — Countable nouns with a/an and some. Ebot lesson 2026-08-29: “I met ___ students in a cafe yesterday” → some (event reading vs category).